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This is bizarre, since LL Bean contributed to Trump's election.
My understanding is that it was a single member of the board who contributed to a PAC that supported Trump.
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2017/02/21/ll-bean-donald-trump/
No doubt this is just one of Smith's initiatives to rebrand the brand after that PR disaster. But as a park supporter, I'd say it is welcome.
“This is bizarre, since LL Bean contributed to Trump's election.”
What is even more bizarre is that people still buy into the myth that liberals are the only ones who care about the national parks or the environment.
But most bizarre of all is the theory that those who criticize President Trump, his appointees and his supporters, or the people who foolishly voted for him, must be by definition a liberal.
I am not a liberal, I am a (self declared) Teddy Roosevelt Republican. I would see Trump and most of his cabinet-level appointees and White House political staff shipped off to a speedy retirement as soon as possible, for a variety of reasons not the least of which being their perfectly-transparent and demonstrated failure to see natural resources as anything other than a source for dollars for their allies. I celebrate LL Bean for their philanthropy depite the presence of one feisty Trump supporter on their board who didn't do the company any favors by her tone-deaf comments. I also celebrate other corporate philanthropists who tend to be both conservative and conservation minded. We need more leadership like that.
Anon- You can call yourself a "Republican" but if the above statement reflects your beliefs then you are a Republian in name only. Trup enjoys 90%+ approval among Republicans (Gallup). Clearly you are out of step with the rest of the party.
Ecbuck - to steal Reagan's line: I didn't leave the Republican Party, the party left me. A lot of people talk about how personal responsbility and character are more important than issues - well, if Republican they are either liars, ot ten percenters. The Cabinet Secretaries in the news are all crooked. The ones who aren't crooked are cowed. People like KAC and SHS have all lost their moral compass if they ever have one. People like Stephen Miller and Trump's children are running the Executive Branch. People doing important work either in service of conservative principles or nonpartisan ones have their heads down. The Republican Party will be damaged for a decade. Zinke calls himself a Roosevelt Republican too and sometimes he sounds like one, other times he is more of an Albert Bacon Fall. I would have seen Kasich or Bush in the White House.
Anonymous - That doesn't seem to bother the rank and file, who appear either oblivious or complicit.
A lot of people talk about how personal responsbility and character are more important than issues
I agree issues are more important than character although the latter is the primary avenue of attack for the left. I do believe personal responsibility is an issue, as is economic growth, employment, border security, trade, free markets, energy independence et al. That is why true Republicans support President Trump.
Speaking of Roosevelt Republicans, holy smokes this guy may just be my hero.
http://mountainjournal.org/ted-roosevelt-knows-what-it-means-to-be-teddy...
Nice find, Anonymous - very interesting article about TRIV.
Yes, Rick B., but alas, he isn't a >TRUE< Republican either. Only those who check their integrity at the voting booth to throw their lot in with those who never had any, are "true" Republicans.
I see, the other 90% aren't true and have no integrity, but you are and you do. LOL Seems like perhaps you should own up to the fact that you really aren't a Republican.
Sadly, there is no Republican Party any more, just a cult of personality led by trump.
Who is this guy who decides who counts and who doesn't?
There is no "guy" There are 90% who concur. If 90% of Republicans say they like what Trump is doing, I would say what he is doing is what counts. He is doing what he promised and what he was elected to do.
Well, 90% of your party doesn't matter a helluva lot. So far many of the elections that have occurred are pointing towards you and all of your party going the way of the dodo. Rather than piddle on each other's shoes right now, let's let the discussion return to the parks, and the election will occur soon enough.
“But most bizarre of all is the theory that those who criticize President Trump, his appointees and his supporters, or the people who foolishly voted for him, must be by definition a liberal.”
I don’t think there are many conservatives who don’t find some fault with Trump and haven’t been critical of him at times. Nor do I think anyone voted for him because of his character. Everyone who was paying even the slightest bit of attention saw his character during the primaries. Nor do I believe anyone can agree (or disagree) with anyone 100 percent of the time without being a hypocrite. While I believe personal responsibility and character are very important I don’t believe they are more important than the issues and accomplishments when it comes to our President and the good of our country. It is sad we can’t have both but that is the choice we were given.
And while I am on that subject, I had a wide ranging discussion with friends the other day about corruption, ethics, morals etc. We were debating which is worse, obvious lies and corruption or finely tuned carefully crafted and hidden ones both by individuals and governments. I am of the mindset that I would rather have to deal with a poor liar than a good one.
And while I find Trumps character lacking, he is far from alone in that regard and not all that much different from many past President’s, except for the fact that he is not very good at disguising it and in the zeal of the press to attack him for it.
Let me just add one thing. I do think regardless of party we should all work to rid our political system of corruption and work harder to steer us back to a culture of mutual respect and civility.
I think the person best suited to determine whether one is "a republican" or is "republican", or "republican-leaning", whatever. is the person themself. That, and whether they appear on some official roll of the organization. I guess if someone is registered as a republican, then that is that, regardless if they agree with 90% of their fellow members about more than 50% of issues. Of course during all this polling about whether "republicans" agree with the President on this or that or other respondents are likely asked if they "identify" as republican, instead of asking if they are an actual member of the club, being registered as such, but, whatever. I guess in addition to me, there is Ted Roosevelt IV, and probably the CEO of LLBean in the group of 10% of people who don't state they agree with the President (or however the question is worded). Many more too - a lot of people who advocate for most of what ECBuck does, most of the party platform. But dance with the devil and you'll end up in hell, as the old saying goes.
Substitute "conservative" for "republican" if it makes you feel better, EC. It makes me feel better already, since so many of my "republican" colleagues have lost their minds.
What you call your self, anon, has absolutely no bearing on what your are. Either you support the Republican platform or you don't When you disclaim the party's nominee, its platfom and the President's successes you disclaim any title to being a Republican regardless of how you are registered. And no, the question wasn't "do you identify as aRepublican." The 90% are those expressing approval of Trump.
I wasn't aware that fealty was a requirement to call oneself a Republican. I always thought that the major political parties were big tent which allowed for people to have differences in philosophy, and even where one could disagree. I've mostly been trying to stay out of this discussion because your take on it has almost approached a religious level of fervor. At a certain point I figure it's useless to argue with a true believer.
OK, folks, take the political bickering somewhere else...