The shrinking Lyell Glacier/NPS photos.
Is it time to start a pool over when the Lyell Glacier in Yosemite National Park is no longer classified as a glacier? Or when it vanishes from the landscape? Those are good questions to ask, as the glacier, the second largest in the Sierra Nevada according to the National Park Service, is continuing to shrink.
The National Park Service's Climate Change Response team says the glacier "has thinned rapidly over just the last few years. Note (in the accompanying photo) the newly exposed bedrock on the east (left) side; it's estimated the glacier may now be only 15-20 feet thick. Currently the glacier is losing on average about three feet of thickness each year. How much longer until it's gone?"
It was back in February 2013 when word came that the Lyell Glacier had stagnated, or ceased its downhill movement, while the adjacent Maclure Glacier was still moving at its historical rate, about one inch per day.
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In other words, you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. You are no more a qualified to evaluate the science than anyone else on this board, and probably less- as evidenced by your swallowing these two pictures as "science" and "evidence". Thanks for the laugh.
Please do that. Document where the scientist showed that climate change was exclusively the reason for the glacial recession and how they definatively linked it to human activity.
Of which there has been no increase despite predictions to the contrary. Who is burying their head in the sand?
I will ask once again Gary, if increases in human generated CO2 cause global warming, why have we not had global warming for nearly two decades despite massive increases in CO2 emissions? The models fail. The "science" fails.
Produce it - along with the evidence about the glacier melt.
Don't worry, next year one of the films that i'm producing will very much document climate change at least in the Smokies. I have enough film evidence collected thanks to a few massive deluges, tornadoes, hurricanes, and derecho's that occurred all in the past couple years.
And here's some evidence that contradicts your "failing science" and disagrees with your assessment that you must have pulled from here.
And for the record, 2014, barring some catastrophic cooling event will more than likely also be put in the top 10 warmest years on record list.
The chasing ice team is already producing enough visual evidence on glacial melt off in greenland, iceland, montana, and the arctic. Guess, you've never seen it? It's excellent work.
Where's your visual evidence to showcase this isn't occuring, EC? Got any other than it once snowed behind your house?
Oh the old change the subject trick.
Document that the Lyell glacier is receeding because of warming - as opposed to say lack of precipitation and then show me the documentation that CO2 increases are causing that warming. --- Oh, that's right, you can't because the temperatures weren't warming over the period covered by those pictures.
Once again you dodged the question - if CO2 causes global warming and CO2 has increased dramatically over the last two decades, why haven't temperatures followed suit?
Yeah, thanks for the laughs Gary. The real science has shown no global warming for over 18 years. And that is a undesputed fact. I'll provide the data if you desire.
If these "scientists" you collaborate with agree with AGW then they are not real scientists, thanks for playing.Ummm wouldn't it be stated that if this is the hottest year on record in California that it means the surface temperature is also some of the highest the state has seen? I also already posted a link showcasing that the top 10 warmest years on record were all since 1998. So, once again, i-got-my-science-from-a-crackerjackbox boy, you continue to showcase you should stick to real estate and shilling titles instead of trying to debate this topic, because you obviously are oblivious to reason, data and evidence.
If glaciers are rapidly retreating in places like Alaska, Greenland, and Montana, wouldn't it be safe to assume that if the chasing ice team put a camera system on the lyell glacier, they would see the same sort of retreat over a few years? Ohh my hypothesis is YES they would. Maybe the Yosemite NPS should do just that...