Yes! "Sue the bastards!" I'd happily contribute to the plaintiffs legal fund.
Mar 20th - 23:24pm |
Clifford
I get that you disagree with the policies of Mr. Trump but since this cashless move by the NPS is happening on Mr. Biden's watch, not Mr. Trump's, perhaps you can tone your political hate down a bit and instead focus on constructively helping us to turn back this misguided NPS policy.
Mar 20th - 17:48pm |
chris...
Chris built trails in Yosemite valley. Go take a trip there and ask yourself if lazy govt workers built such things. While Pancho might have been lazy- and sometimes chris was too- most worked pretty darn hard. Ditto for Yellowstone when I worked there. In fact I think the only real lazy people I worked with was upper mgmt. Perhaps thats others reality.
Some work hard. A lot don't and didn't. I first heard the phrase "good enough for government work" when I worked for the NPS. It was said by workers milking a maintenance project for OT. Half hour breaks throughout the day were common. And it was nearly impossible to get fired. Perhaps chris worked in an alternate reality.
Mar 20th - 13:03pm |
chris...
Art- some of us worked very hard in the NPS to ensure the parks were free and open to everyone- including people like you....
Mar 20th - 09:57am |
Art Donovan
Yes! This!! I agree 100%
Mar 20th - 09:30am |
Art Donovan
Seirously, suing the govt for $10 over cash!! You don't have a card, seriously. Get a life. Find a better hobby than suing the govt over your 'right fighting'.....
Mar 19th - 21:22pm |
chris...
I would not say that fed empolyees prefer not to work- I too was one of them. I busted my a.. to get the job done. Often harming myself in the process. Many others did the same. Heck- when I cleared a some trails in Yosemite we worked 12 hrs a day plus with no overtime, running chainsaws and working stock animals to haul equipment.
Mar 19th - 20:13pm |
Edward Martel
Taking cash causes too much work for our government employees, who tend to prefer doing less work. Trust me, I was one of them. Customer service is of no importance to upper management (at the park level) when it comes to pushing their own agenda. I hope the plaintiffs win.
Mar 19th - 14:38pm |
(Another) Doug
So all the business that post "no bills larger than $20 accepted" should be forced to accept all dominations as well?
Mar 19th - 13:04pm |
Sharon Letz
Just try buying a post card - one post card - and have to use a credit card at a National Park Site? How much more will it cost in fees aside from the postage? I have just left the card and the park due to this policy way back when they first tried this.
Mar 19th - 12:38pm |
Doug
The courts need to stop everyone from refusing to accept cash for payment. The policy of refusing cash is discriminatory, mean, and obviously illegal. The justification, that refusing cash reduces cost to the business, is irrelevent.
"My safety is more important than your convenience."
Mar 19th - 01:47am |
William Lee
Except a fee is legally different than a debt. You are indebted to the federal government for your taxes, not the national parks that you choose to enter.
Mar 18th - 23:51pm |
Troy
I'm for returning Legal US Tender (cash) as a form of payment to a US department. I agree with most of what you said, but just know that those entry pay cash machines are not owned by the parks. They are managed by private companies that take a huge cut of the entry fee. More so than using a credit card at a visitor center or manned entry station.
Mar 18th - 10:07am |
Anonymous
Add Castillo de San Marcos NM to that list. I sat in the meeting when management decided to make the change. I made the point of how it would be discrimnotory to certaian groups and submitted academic research to prove it... it was ignored and then spent the next few years being cursed at and recoevong death threats for the policy... #RangerOn
Mar 18th - 09:17am |
Bob Smith
It's not fair to a person who might be denied a credit card or check card especially as people can now be "debanked" for free speech. One shouldn't have to go through a forprofit bank and get "approval" to be able to use somethingy they likey have been paying taxes for their entire life.
Mar 18th - 08:53am |
Chuck Albury
It is about following the law. On every denomination, it states that it is legal tender for all debts both public and private. In other words, you can't refuse to accept it. All businesses should expect cash payments.
Mar 17th - 20:31pm |
Bett
I absolutely agree that not only National Parks, but every entity that receives payments or fees that people ordinarily have to pay should be required to accept cash.
Just part of the process of moving us to a cashless society. Can't track or control if we can use cash.
Mar 17th - 13:02pm |
Surfnwally
I can understand the National Park Service's reasons for going cashless, but overall I disagree with their policy.
Mar 17th - 12:16pm |
Van Livingston
It's not about convenience, it is about following the law. On every denomination it states that it is legal tender for all debts both public and private. In other words, you can't refuse to accept it.
Mar 17th - 12:07pm |
Dee Dee
The reason, I hope, that NPS doesn't want cash? We have volunteered at Visitor Centers, and we do not want cash. We always make a point of stating we have no cash available. My safety is more important than your convenience. Many booths are remote, one LE for thousands of acres, and we are not allowed to carry.
Mar 17th - 10:32am |
Loui
The Swamp preaches and chants about inclusivity until it becomes inconvenient to accomodate the indigent or the undocumented who may not be able to secure cards.
Mar 17th - 10:05am |
Green Pants
Yessss. This removes accessibility, not accepting legal, federal tender. I hope they win
Frank Buono, who has worked in almost every aspect of national parks for almost 30 years, told the Traveler in November that while the Code of Federal Regulations "contains an exception for existing Federal law or treaty rights. .
Thank you for this, Kurt. There are a lot of disturbing things raised here. However, I am particularly concerned from my perspective as someone who has worked for almost 40 years to protect native wildlife species and their habitats.
Mar 20th - 12:35pm |
A. Johnson
In reaching his decision, Sams -- no doubt sensitive to cultural issues from his own background as a Cayuse and Walla Walla
Mar 19th - 13:00pm |
Doug Allis
All the hand wringing over the taking of one eagle by one tribe in one US park comes off as highly ironic. Here we have an entitiy of the USG, which stole the land to begin with, telling a tribe what they can and cannot do with one animal on ancient tribal lands that are currently managed by the Feds, under the guise of being a "National Park".
The question, Peter Wisner, is where should the National Park Service place its ethics bar?
Mar 16th - 20:59pm |
James Longstreet
Peter Wisner:
Issuing a permit for anyone to kill an eagle in an NPS unit for anything other than legitimate research is a clear violation of federal regulations. In other words, it's AGAINST THE LAW. There's no ambiguity there.
Mar 16th - 18:24pm |
Peter Wisner
This is an interesting Traveler's View. A lot of it based on hersay, and "sources" and really lack of any substantive information. Like a 5th grade slam book.
Mar 15th - 16:02pm |
Mather Forever
The NLC has always been what the Director at the time wants it to be. For Director Jarvis to speak that it is the only place to get field input is disingenous. Director Jarvis had an NLC but he also divided it up into smaller groups of 3-4 DC based/RD staff that made all the real decisions. The Budget Executive Committee and the Executive Committe it what they were called. I would caution
Little known fact: Subsequent riders in bills have already killed the Antiquities Act in Alaska and Wyoming after the pereceived Executive overreach there; meaning the President cannot designate monuments in those states any longer.
Mar 20th - 12:21pm |
A. Johnson
A hearing Wednesday before the U.S. House Natural Resources Committee will focus on proposed legislation to weaken the Antiquities Act that presidents from both parties have used to establish national monuments.
"weaken"?
Mar 20th - 12:03pm |
Public Land Owner
Buckle up kids because you aint seen nothing yet. Gogle up Project 2025 and read section 16 "Department OF The Interior". Follow that by reading about the "Freedom Cities" our former/returning President is planning on our land. Greatness is comming friends.
Mar 20th - 10:39am |
A. Johnson
The Antiquities Act needs reform. Without broader support, say from Congress, the president acting alone via the AA will only perpetuate this cycle of controversially creating new or expanding monuments, then the next president trying to shrink or modify the previous poresident's actions, and on and on, with no real resolution of the monument's status or its scope.
Mar 20th - 10:35am |
A. Johnson
While the NPT is free to post whatever comments it wants, the decision to publish Beau's hate-filled comments is surprising.
I am certain that if "Republican" was "Democrat", Beau's angry rant would have never seen the light of day.
Mar 20th - 09:16am |
Beau
Republicans are greedy, destructive terrorists who have no appreciation for the beauty and peace natural places provide. They only seek to exploit our remaining public places for personal gain. I call upon everyone who loves and appreciates natural beauty to do anything in your power to stop this GOP Terrorism. These people are not decent. They're not focused on the future of our country.
Mar 20th - 08:22am |
chris...
We dont have a king. WE have a congress to decide what will be federal land and what will not. Its we the people. Not I the king. The law has always been a joke
Mar 20th - 07:36am |
Will De Man
The Antiquities Act is the most powerful conservation law ever, conceived during the Progressive Era. In my reading of the legislative history, the intention of Congress in passing law was for the President to be able to take swift action where other governing bodies couldn't.
"Climate change is driving more intense wildfires"
Unsupported talking point that ignores that the largest and most intense wildfires occured around the turn of the 20th century. Fuel buildup and federal mismanagement is the issue, not climate change."
"And a lot of that [pollution] is from so many vehicles on the road"
Mar 19th - 08:52am |
chris..
Well the sand in Yosemite is from the Gobi desert in China...
Guess which country is building more coal fired power plants than any other nation>
Also odd there was no mention of the mercury emissions from coal plants thats really the problem..
oh- and who started the HI and TX wildfires?
Just reading their wiki "controversies and leaks" page is terrifying. Why are they involved with our rec.gov website? They are one of those companies that should be totally dissolved.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booz_Allen_Hamilton
Wow, someone heard someone calling for help and did absolutely nothing but tell everyone much later, was it days, months or years, that they heard cries for help. What. The. Fudge. Are we humans that dumb? Unbelievable that someone would ignore cries for help especially where someone can fall off the edge. Omg. I have lost my faith in people. Disgusting.
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