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Needles Campground, Canyonlands National Park/Kurt Repanshek

A repeat of my 2018 stay at the Needles Campground in Canyonlands National Park likely will have to wait until 2020/Kurt Repanshek

Editor's note: This updates with response from recreation.gov's "escalation" desk, and includes terms of contract Booz Allen Hamilton negotiated.

Securing a campsite in a national park is not always an easy endeavor, and, unfortunately, recreation.gov does not always help.

The other day I searched for an available site at the Needles Campground (aka Squaw Flat Campground) in Canyonlands National Park in southeastern Utah. This is one of the best campgrounds in the Southwest. There are just 26 individual sites set amid the glorious redrock splendor of Canyonlands' Needles District. The sites are well spaced and offer a measure of solitude you don't always find in national park campgrounds, the restrooms are well kept up and even offer wash basins to do your dishes, and the night skies are wonderfully dark for star gazing.

The trick to landing a site, of course, is to start six months before you want to visit. My bad. I waited until six weeks out. Still, using recreation.gov to get a site was akin to hitting a moving target. First there were available sites, then there weren't. When I saw three consecutive dates in early April I wanted to go after, I tried to log into the site to snag them. It didn't like my email or password, so I created a new account. Sadly, it didn't like that new account it even after it verified it:

Are you sure you have the right email and password? Please double check your email and password, and try again. You can also click the links below to sign up for an account or reset your password. -- recreation.gov

I tried calling the folks at recreation.gov...and the recorded voice told there as a 43-minute wait time. So I tried the "chat" option. After a short wait, an agent chimed in to inquire what I needed. After I explained my dilemma, I was told my log-in issues could be solved by one of their agents ... if I called the reservations number.

See where this is going?

Is this the best way to run a reservation system for a sprawling system of some 100,000 campsites spread across the National Park System, U.S. Forest Service, and U.S. Bureau of Land Management. It's a timely question to ask, as last fall the reservation system was taken over by Booz Allen Hamilton, which Outside Magazine described as a "management consultant giant..." and which no doubt demonstrated its ability to handle the job when the contract came up. Under the terms of that ten-year contract, which kicked in October 1, Booz Allen Hamilton is being paid $182 million.

Giant they might be, but are they big enough or keen enough to manage this far-flung system? Supposedly one of the requirements for landing the contract was that Booz Allen Hamilton had to offer real-time reservation status. That might explain my experience with the "now you see them, now you don't" available campsites. They come and go as folks reserve a site, and then cancel their reservation. Ok, I get it. But there's more to running a reservation system than offering a tracking system that many others in the travel and dining industries long ago mastered. Operating a system that works, for instance.

Those behind the recreation.gov's call-in reservation system realized they wouldn't always have enough agents to handle call loads, and so designed the system to allow you to leave your phone number and they'd call you back...without you losing your place in line. I took that option, and within about 10 minutes got a call ... from a recorded voice that told me an agent would be with me shortly.

While I waited, I took another spin around recreation.gov's page for Canyonlands. A huge problem is that they haven't yet loaded maps of campgrounds, at least not those at Canyonlands, and so you can't look at the site you're being offered. Is your chosen site next door to the restrooms, and so you might have more foot traffic than usual day and night? How close to trailheads is it? Is there shade? Where are the water spigots? (I would come to learn that when Booz Hamilton got the recreation.gov contract, they had to build the system from scratch. They couldn't take what the previous company was using. But still, there are scads of park maps out there, including maps of campgrounds. Shouldn't a "management consultant giant" be able to fine-tune those rather quickly? Or pay someone to?)

After sitting on hold for eight minutes, not a long time, an agent tried to help me sort out my log-in credentials. He couldn't, even after verifying my email was in their system and walking me through a password reset (not that it's complicated, but he was trying to be helpful). No luck. Instead, he said he woud have to "escalate" my issue to a higher power. But he didn't know when -- In an hour? Later today? Tomorrow? Next week? -- or how -- email? phone call? text? carrier pigeon? -- I would be contacted. He also didn't know if they worked weekends, and didn't have any contact phone numbers for me to resort to. And while he told me that, those three available nights I wanted vanished.

Not that it matters, since I can't log in to reserve them.

A tech from the escalation team called back Monday morning, roughly 24 hours after my unhappy experience. After 10-15 minutes on the phone with him, during which I shared my browser screen so he could try to diagnose the problem...he was at a loss. His suggestion, while he consulted with others, was that I create a new account once again, but with a different email address. Or I could call their reservations line and hope that I get connected with someone before the sites and dates I want vanish.

That's my recreation.gov story. What's yours?

Comments

I can't get recreation.gov to remove a hold on a Visa card or state the reason for it.  I have communicated with 6 people and none are competent/interested/authorized to solve any problem that you can't do yourself with their ineffective help menu.


I have data going back to 2009 and will have more data come this October when the FOIA request is filed for the 2021 season.  My pleas have fallen mostly on deaf ears as no real changes have been enacted with the exception(this year) of limiting the number of nights you can stay in a season.  We'll see if that holds true this year.  Lottery system is the only fair way to allot these popular cabins and sites.  It can be done easily.  It's frustrating but you have to stay on it.  Too many complain but give up when they are shuffled to the next person and the next person.....  Just remember these are our lands and they are equal access for all of us.......


I hate the recreation.gov site with all my heart. The owner of the site must be bilking of millions from us.


Just had to pay an $8 fee to reserve a $15 campsite.

More than 50% of the item cost added in fees? This is like dealing with TicketBastard.

And for WHAT, exactly? I didn't have a better customer experience than I had with all the other websites where I reserved a campsite and didn't pay confiscatory reservation fees.

Indeed, I'd say NOT paying those fees provides a better customer experience.

In conclusion, fark Booz-Allen, but also particularly fark Ag Sec'y Sonny Perdue for selling out the American public to big GOP donors like Booz-Allen.


Maybe they should limit the amount of days one can reserve a site to 1 week per Campground per month!

I'm tired of visiting Campgrounds that were totally blocked out for the weekend only to find 1/2 the sites empty all weekend! I'm sure this is hurting the their finances and probably why the maintenance has gone down hill in recent years.

 These people that abuse the system by reserving a month and then canceling or modifying their reservations are ruining a good time for others!


I just discovered that Booz Allen gets all the money from the lottery system Of which single digit number of people get (90 or so percent of those lottery attempts money goes straight to Booz Allen). IF you are lucky enough to win a chance to camp/enter, THEN the money you pay goes to the park system. There is an organization called "BIG" that has an extensive article on this legal criminality (Booz Allen contributes (buys) politicians who allow the contracts to exist).


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