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Judge Tosses Surprise Canyon Lawsuit

Jul 30th - 22:36pm | Old Soldier

The Center for Biological Diversity is a first clas pain in the a** to almost everyone. They are against everything. Look them up, they have over 300 law suits pending at the moment and their record is 9 out of 10 suits dismissed as frivilous. That still doesn't make them harmless. They cost many, including private land holders 1000's of $ just so they can be heard.

Jul 30th - 06:17am | Beamis

Elvis died in 1977.

Jul 29th - 22:00pm | LostBurro

"There'll be a lot of sniveling by the drones..."

Jul 29th - 09:18am | Ned

Kudos to the Judge and hurray for the canyon. There'll be a lot of sniveling by the drones you betcha, but there always was and always will be, and at least the canyon will be too.

Jul 28th - 20:47pm | Castle

I find it interesting that you allow and provide for comments, but don't post them all. I posted a comment the other day, I didn't agree with you, so I guess that's why it hasn't showed up.

Jul 28th - 16:07pm | Sandman

This sure is interesting. Access to Panamint City is as it was when the first prospectors showed up and chased the local Indians away. You gotta walk!

And, Speaking of Volcanoes ... Audio Story at Lassen Volcanic

Jul 30th - 15:18pm | Steve Sergeant

Jeremy: Thanks for the recognition. To follow up on your remarks, and Barky's comment, I find over and over again no matter how spectacular the main front-country attractions are in a park, there are always things you can see and experience in the backcountry that make it well worth the extra effort.

Jul 28th - 13:26pm | Barky

I have not been to Lassen yet, but I completely agree with your Devils Tower comment. The 5 mile loop is terrific. The beauty of these "hidden trails" is that you not only you see more of the actual landscape, flora, and fauna than on the well-traveled trails, but you can also put the entire park into context.

Blue Angels Fly By Grand Tetons

Jul 30th - 13:51pm | lennea borg

Snowbird06

Jul 30th - 13:47pm | Beamis

Don't even bite on that one Frank. What Staci totally misunderstands is that true patriotism is love of country not love of the government, but what do you expect from repeated generations that have been meticulously indoctrinated by mandatory attendance in government run schools? We as a society will reap what we sow.

Jul 30th - 12:57pm | snowbird

Staci, not a "impeccable record" and sorry to say...with sadness. April21, 2007, Lt. Commander Kevin Davis was killed when his F/A-18 crashed in a wooded residentail area near Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort , S.C., and another crash in 1999 near Pensacola, Florida. In the sixty year history of the Blue Angels there has been 29 fatalities involving there flight program.

Jul 30th - 09:26am | Staci

LOL...you libs are so funny!! Fact is, the Blues will fly anywhere they damn well please because MOST Americans (ones who aren't whacked-out enviros) know that THUNDER makes a helluva lot more noise than jets...the lil animals will be just fine...LOL!!!

Jul 29th - 18:30pm | Beamis

The idea that the U.S. military is protecting anyone's freedom is an absolutely absurd notion but firmly ingrained in much of the culture. These Bozo's were not even able to protect their own headquarters in DC much less the largest city in our country. What they are good at, though, is attacking weaker countries that don't possess nukes i.e.

Jul 29th - 17:34pm | HurlGurl

"...smelly spoiled leftists who seem to abound on today's college campuses don't even deserve to be in the same room as these fine gentlemen...."

Jul 29th - 15:26pm | Snowbird

Jeremy and Sandi, why is it that you have to label people with childish insults who disagree with you. Sure, we all have differences of opinion about the subject matter discussed above. My uncle was a flight instructor in WW II, and would prefer the silence of the woods in the National Parks after serving horrendous years of war.

Jul 29th - 14:12pm | Frank

As far as I am concerned, those military men and women who guard our freedom can fly over at any damn altitude they wish in our parks As far as the LAW is concerned, they cannot. Of course, the military industrial complex and the "conservative" party in power often feel they are above the law.

Jul 29th - 12:18pm | Sandi

Jeremy is absolutely right...smelly spoiled leftists who seem to abound on today's college campuses don't even deserve to be in the same room as these fine gentlemen.... And I can't belive there are so many leftists in this blog who aren't grateful for their freedom that men such as the Angels have granted them thru the years.

Jul 28th - 21:10pm | Jeremy

Wish I coulda been there to see the "best of the best" fly over.... Lot less intrusion than smelling stinking, disgusting, leftist college punks and hippies who come into our place of business on a regular basis. I've seen the Angels, and these are fine American gentlemen! I'd like 'em to fly over a peak I am on ANYTIME!!

Jul 28th - 20:02pm | Anonymous

It would have been a lot easier and cheaper to use photoshop. Who'd be able to tell the difference?

Jul 28th - 09:07am | Mookie

I have no idea if any animals were harmed. However, studies done in Yellowstone have shown that the noise pollution from snowmobiles have changed feeding patterns for moose and deer, and may show a decrease in offspring the following year. Someone made the comment above saying that thunder is louder than a fly-by and the wildlife don't have a problem with that.

Jul 27th - 23:07pm | Bob

Mookie, what animals were harmed? Could you be a bit more specific, please?

Jul 27th - 23:01pm | Bob

I'm going to be up there in the Tetons in 6 more weeks and perhaps I'll feel differently about the Blue Angels making a couple of passes thru the park at that time.

Jul 27th - 20:10pm | Richard Young

Does freedom have a sound. Yes you got to make a stupid remark about the Navy and there sound of the engines noise. U.S. men have died all over the world to protect us and others. There sound is great. Did you know that thunder and lighting is louder than the Navy Jets? God made that noise too and the animals have heard it for many years and there doing fine.

Jul 27th - 00:25am | Evan

Interesting reading through this, I live in Jackson and yes I saw the Blue Angels do a flyby around 2:50pm Mountain time. We have a few flybys a year by the military mainly because the VP has a house here. The main concern of these flyby's is the safety of the people in the mountains, because the "sound of freedom" can cause rock debris and slides.

Website Administrative Note about Comment Spam

Jul 30th - 09:46am | Larry Engleke

I understand the desire for security when putting your email address on a national website; I don't want a bunch of spam, either. Nonetheless, the days of hiding in anonymity behind a computer (pre 9/11/2001) are behind us. We, as a nation and as citizens, deserve to know who is talking to us.

Statue of Liberty May Once Again Open to Top

Jul 29th - 11:47am | Brian Auer

That's pretty interesting, I had no idea they were considering opening the top back up. I haven't had the opportunity to go inside the statue, but I would certainly consider it if they allowed access to the top again.

Jul 29th - 10:47am | Barky

I visited the crown 5-6 years before 9/11, and it was a wonder to behold. Yes, it was only a quick stop (due to the long lines and crowds), but it was worth it. You really get a feel for the place when you're crawling around inside it, and even when you're trapped inside, waiting your turn, you can really marvel at the construction of the thing.

Top 10 Most Visited National Parks

Jul 29th - 09:09am | Owen Hoffman

I find the statistics reporting 18,953,478 visits for the Blue Ridge Parkway subject to question.

Mt St Helens as National Park?

Jul 28th - 16:18pm | Snowbird

Been there Diana, found this whole region to be just awesome. This is a geological wonder that testfies that mother nature bats last. Yes, it deserves the status as a National Park...and more. Just to see the slow ecological recovery after this big blast is a remarkable thing to see. Try to visualize the impact that nature(after the eruption) has on this beautiful part of the country Ruth.

Jul 28th - 15:48pm | Diana

Oh please Ruth,be for real.. Any one who has ever taken the time to go to St.Helens knows ,it's anything but a barren wasteland. Maybe people, who don't know what their talking about,should keep their thought 's to themselves.Especially, when it comes to such important matters.

Jul 28th - 13:19pm | Barky

My original comment: "This was the most momentous volcanic eruption on the continental United States in the history of the country." Beamis' comment: "If I'm not mistaken the eruption of Lassen Peak on was equally powerful. Any vulcanologists out there know which was bigger?"

Jul 28th - 10:57am | Frank

St. Helens is anything but a "barren wasteland", and those who have visited have seen the abundant covering of wildflowers, grasses, saplings, and sedges. Fish, bears, deer, mountain lions, and other wildlife call it home. St. Helens provides us with a rare opportunity to study natural recovery after a cataclysmic volcanic disturbance.

Jul 28th - 08:55am | Ruth

Sell it off to developers or put it back into timber production...it's just a barren wasteland.

Jul 28th - 01:07am | Glenn Scofield ...

I live in Portland and am familiar with the politics and problems surrounding the monument. It was carved far too small to serve as the island of scientific and natural study it should have been, but it's better than nothing...

Jul 28th - 00:38am | Anonymous

a blanket statement about if it's good enough to have a visitor center then it should be an national park is too black and white. there are *plenty* of urban interface (public lands) areas that aren't nps administered and need visitor centers, but might not cut it as a park unit.

Jul 27th - 20:53pm | Frank

From the USGS: "Dramatic eruptive activity in the Cascades has been rare so far in the 20th century. Until the recent eruptions at Mount St. Helens, the only Cascade volcano that had a major eruption during this century was Lassen Peak in California.

Jul 27th - 20:06pm | jersu

As far as the explosivity of Mt. St. Helens, it is smaller than that of other volcanoes that are presently inside of the United States. But, I think the original comment is correct, that since the United States has existed as a country, Mt St Helens has been the biggest.

Jul 27th - 19:56pm | Beamis

"This was the most momentous volcanic eruption on the continental United States in the history of the country." If I'm not mistaken the eruption of Lassen Peak on was equally powerful. Any vulcanologists out there know which was bigger?

Jul 27th - 18:10pm | Frank

Gifford Pinchot was going to step on a tarantula at Grand Canyon when Muir stopped him. What the %)#% are you doing! Muir said (heavily paraphrased).

Jul 27th - 17:26pm | Barky

Mt. St. Helens absolutely needs to be a National Park. First, there's just the overall beauty and remoteness of the site. Second, there's the preservation of an ecology in repair. There is a fascinating naturalist tale to be told at St. Helens: how the land recovers from trauma.

Jul 27th - 16:41pm | Beamis

Leave it the way it is. Less is better when nature has done most of the work.

Jul 27th - 16:32pm | Merryland

I personally don't think the Forest Service should be building lavish Visitor Centers. If it's worthy of a Visitor Center, it's worthy of National Park status. Either close the thing permanently and let people enjoy it without all the fuss of National Park status, or make it a NM and fund the thing. I was there a few years ago with my son.

NPT: Blog or Webzine?

Jul 27th - 18:15pm | Frank

we were refused some park information because we were "just bloggers" Sounds like the government BS bureaucracy machine. Keep up the good work. I've been critical of your "slant", as I'm far left on the issue of preservation, but you both are doing good work.

Jul 27th - 15:31pm | jersu

Thanks everyone for the comments. Without getting into the details, we had run into a situation where we were refused some park information because we were "just bloggers". As you all have found with the new website, and backed up with Kurt's statement in this article, we are really trying to build something beyond "just" a blog.

Jul 27th - 14:10pm | Art Allen

What's in a Name? "A Blogzine by any other name would read so sweet" Whatever you call it, NPT is hot. You have a lot of readers contributing their views on matters pertaining to parks and other public land management issues. Keep on Trucking. Art

Jul 27th - 11:24am | Snowbird

Kurt, you and Jeremy have created a important and informative appendage to understanding the critical issues facing our National Parks today (through your website). I have learned alot about the intricate aspects in how our National Parks are administratively run, ruined, raved and ranted over your website. Some of this stuff you would never find even in the back pages of your local newspaper.

Jul 27th - 10:07am | Andrea

NPT brings attention to parks and issues not covered anywhere else. Thank you for this important work! Oh, and I love Jeremy's videos.

Parties in the Parks: Much Ado About Nothing?

Jul 27th - 16:21pm | Merryland

Watching, need to check your sarcasm detector and not take my comments too seriously every time (most of the time, but not every time). Sorry to hit your eject button... PS - Your name no longer applies... ;-) -- Jon Merryman

Jul 27th - 10:02am | Ron Tipton

These kinds of events raise questions of compatibility and appropriateness. National parks are our national treasures, deserving respect and treatment as such.

Jul 27th - 07:56am | Watching from t...

No Merryland the terrorists haven't won, the lies and propoganda about terrorists that is swallowed by the American sheeple has won. The very same outfit dropping bombs on Mesopotamia is the very same one in charge of the national parks. Why shouldn't they fly their jets wherever they want to? You act so surprised. It's a work in progress, if I remember your words correctly.

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