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Acadia National Park Officials Debating How To Deal With Crowds

Jul 20th - 18:33pm | RickyAZ

where is this right to bar foreigners from the Parks found in the Constitution?  Good luck getting anyone with more than 2 weeks of legal training to enforce it

Jul 20th - 16:33pm | Megaera

I live an hour and a half from Paradise on Mt. Rainier, as do several hundred thousand other people.  When Rainier experienced the floods of 2006 that essentially closed the park for more than six months, I felt compelled to drive up to the Nisqually Entrance to take the ranger-led walk up the road to see some of the damage.

Jul 20th - 16:32pm | Acadia on my mind

We visited Acadia during the busy July 4 weekend, and while we don't live near the park, we know it well enough from our blogging and writing hiking guides, that we were able to avoid the traffic and crowds. Seems that locals would know how to avoid the crowds, as would park visitors who take the time to learn what to avoid, and when.

Jul 20th - 15:34pm | Steve W.

I think locals should get preference only if there is some reason to believe that they contribute less to crowding and ecological damage than someone from farther away.

Jul 20th - 14:12pm | Amber

I think if locals can get preference *on weekends* that could help? Vacationers are on vacation so should be able to come on a week day. Locals could be defined as anyone within about 100 miles? I've seen that some parks have instiuted parking reservations (Yosemite I think?). Locals should know about the hidden gems already so will hopefully go there instead of the more famous attractions?

Yellowstone National Park Expands Human Footprint To Handle Crowds

Jul 20th - 17:57pm | Leigh

Get rid of the tour buses. This would free up parking and slow the volume of people traffic. When 60 people can show up at once in one vehicle it lleads to a bad experience for all.

Jul 20th - 12:39pm | Lee Dalton

This is a solution to a very serious problem.  Not at all a good solution, but perhaps the only one available in the face of crisis level crowding.  It is better than some other options I can think of, though. Have our parks ever faced a greater threat than they do now from overvisitation? 

Echo Bay Resort at Lake Mead NRA has a New Concessioner and a New Name

Jul 20th - 15:51pm | Michael Reed

Seven Crown Resorts, who ran this for 38 years, went out of business because the owners kids ran it into the ground. Kinda sad, this used to be a great marina!

Secretary Zinke Draws Criticism For Appearance Before Anti-Federal Lands Group

Jul 20th - 13:46pm | Lee Dalton

The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is one of the greatest threats to America anywhere.  But this is no surprise at all.  

Analysis Of Comments Points To Overwhelming Support For National Monuments

Jul 20th - 12:57pm | Lee Dalton

The GOP is constantly yapping about a lot of things they want gullible people to believe while they work in the shadows.

Jul 20th - 10:19am | Susan Hayes-Tripp

The GOP is constantly yapping about being Pro-life, yet the legislation they write, support & pass proves otherwise. Their greedy agenda destroys everything/anything which keeps AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL.

For Sale: A Stunning Mansion Inside Black Canyon Of The Gunnison National Park

Jul 20th - 12:46pm | Lee Dalton

Are we sure there are only TWO such monstrosities within national parks in the US?  There is one in Zion and I believe I've heard of some others located on inholdings in other parks.  What about at Grand Teton?

Jul 20th - 11:18am | Rebecca Latson ...

Wow!  Ok, so now, I'm waiting for The Onion to write a story about subdivisions being built within our national parks. Depending upon where you work, the commute might not be so great, but for wealthy people who don't work or could telecommute, that might be just the ticket.  Jeesh, I've just scared myself.

Jul 20th - 08:12am | tahoma

Surely Secretary Zinke & Congress could scrape up a measly $5.5M for another getaway for overworked bureaucrats?  https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2015/10/inspector-general-national...

Zion National Park Considering Reservation System To Manage Crowds

Jul 20th - 10:38am | Kathy G

I am supportive of a reservation system. It is imperative so all can enjoy the park and protect resources.  I think there needs to be a balance btw tour company and individuals. While you are at it, I think non US  visitors shld be charged more than citizens.

Jul 19th - 17:06pm | RickyAZ

charge $15 like they do at Pike's Peak and regulate the numbers, issue solved!   Was up at Zion at end of Feb, beautiful, uncrowded but cold.  You make do.  No one has the right to vist X park on Y date and not expect a crowd if they insist on visiting on the 4th of July

Jul 19th - 14:14pm | Lee Dalton

Zion's not alone in this, as we all know.  Here's an article from the Fresno CA Bee regarding Yosemite's crowding. Perhaps articles like this one, that tell the truth about what's happening will have a dampening effect on visitation and may help a little.

Jul 19th - 08:30am | ecbuck

Looks like the problem is not limited to National Parks  http://denver.cbslocal.com/2017/07/18/mt-bierstadt-colorado-hiking-fee/  

Jul 19th - 08:05am | Lee Dalton

Glacier Bay limits the number of cruise ships that may enter the bay each day.  Why not the same kind of restrictions on large tour buses in other parks? 

Jul 18th - 16:32pm | Karen Louwsma

Hi Jill! International travelers have been visiting Yellowstone since the Park was created in 1872. Many other countries followed our example and created their own national parks. The National Parks are for the enjoyment of all but there must be crowd and use management so that we can actually enjoy them. Keeping foreigners out is not the answer. 

Jul 18th - 14:50pm | cathy944

Yes!  I never understood all this promoting.  The NPS has brought this on themselves.  Population growth is another big problem.  

Jul 18th - 13:03pm | Donald Scott

Entry quotas would work.  Before Eisner and Eiger took over Disneyland, Disney had a strongly-enforced quota for daily visitation.  It meant that the park was never suffocating with people.  There was a legal reason, too, and this should have been obvious to the NPS decades ago - simple safety.   There are clearly marked capacities in all public buildings; Disneyland wo

Jul 18th - 12:55pm | Donald Scott

Reservations?  Making more money for a corporation, and a foreign corporation at that?  "National park units are a public resource, and to the extent possible, should remain affordable to visitors across a range of financial status," the park newsletter said.   I'm retired, in the same financial poverty bracket as in early camping years.  That reservation fee - which is

Secretary Zinke Pledges To Open Public Lands To More Recreational Endeavors

Jul 19th - 23:47pm | Carolyn

Land grab 

Jul 19th - 15:51pm | D

As usual, it's all about $money$ and to hell with all the non-human inhabitants of our planet  

Jul 19th - 13:59pm | Lee Dalton

We dodged a bullet with President Cheney's boy Hoffman.  It took a real fight, though.  We have to be ready to fight again. 

Jul 19th - 10:38am | Michael Kellett

All you have to do is look at the list of meeting participants to know what kind of "recreation" Secretary Zinke is talking about. They represent intensive, commercial, mostly motorized recreation and advocacy for increased privatization of our public lands. Now they have a president who is one of them, and these corporate interests are making the most of this opportunity.

Jul 19th - 08:02am | Lee Dalton

Public lands ARE ALREADY ACCESSIBLE.  But there are some areas where, for any of a number of reasons, some access is restricted.  In some places, ATVs are restricted to established roads or may be banned completely because of such issues as erosion or damage to archaeological sites.

Jul 18th - 21:49pm | Kevan Barton

I would have wanted more balanced reporting by National Parks Traveler, but instead we got another one sided pitch.   He said public lands!   And, while I've watched carefully the polarization of thought surrounding Grand Straircase and Bears Ears,  this could be a win win.

Jul 18th - 20:23pm | Pedergraham

i am all for increasing access.  How about if there were some reps from non-motorized groups there, too?

Jul 18th - 20:12pm | ecbuck

Gee, we shouldn't make public lands accessible to the public?  He didn't say "National Parks" he said "public lands".  Yes National Parks are public lands but a very small percentage of them.  There could be plenty of efforts to open recreation in public lands that would have little if any impact on the parks.

Jul 18th - 18:45pm | Lee Dalton

The only surprise in this is that it has taken six months for them to announce it. 

While Parks Struggle With Unhealthy Ozone Levels, Congress, EPA Want To Delay Reductions

Jul 19th - 21:42pm | wild places

And just how much do the National Parks contribute to this problem? How many millions of miles do people drive to and through the parks in not only their cars but their gas guzzling motor homes, fifth wheels and trailers? Given the widespread overcrowding of the parks it's hardly surprising the air quality suffers. It's always good to look in the mirror once in a while.

Jul 19th - 16:49pm | argalite

Much better than the first statement    

Jul 19th - 10:48am | ecbuck

When the EPA says 100 ppb is healthy, then moving from 75 to 70 ppb is nonconsequential.

Jul 19th - 10:35am | argalite

Your definition of nonconsquential, ecbuck I'm sure those with poor lung health would disagree with your definition. Don't forget all the other life that is affected by this decision

Jul 18th - 20:58pm | Lee Dalton

There are only a few words necessary to describe the current administration.  They include words like GREEDY, DISHONEST, STUPID, UNCARING, CORRUPT.

UPDATE: Woman Missing At Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore Turns Up

Jul 19th - 19:34pm | wild places

A happy ending. She was found alive and well. http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2017/07/hiker_missing_f...

Traveler's View: If Secretary Zinke Was An Anthropologist, Would Bears Ears National Monument Be Safe?

Jul 19th - 18:35pm | y_p_w

Michael Kellett on July 18, 2017 - 1:32pm.

Jul 19th - 13:23pm | Cheryl White Hawk

Is it because Bears' Ears is a culturally important site that Trump wants Zinke to cut it up hense destrying it's significance or is it because Trump wants to access the fossil fuel beneath it ? Either way not keeping it intact would be a crime !  

Jul 18th - 14:32pm | Michael Kellett

However, this is partly on Forest Service land, and I'm not sure how he has authority over such land.

Mount Who? How Did This Famous Park Get Its Name?

Jul 19th - 11:00am | Candance Rushmore

Heidi- I had a Great Uncle named Charles Rushmore, from Michigan. Any chance we could be related?  I can be found on Facebook, AKA"Candi".  Contact me if you are interested. 

Trails I've Hiked: Spruce Flat Falls in Great Smoky Mountains National Park

Jul 19th - 04:56am | Rakhiinindia.in

The information given to me in your blog has been very informative, always read your post. You get something to learn in a post done by you. Well done. It's a great example of setting a goal and creating that content. Hope you will continue to do such informative posts  

President's Decision To Leave Paris Accord Draws Criticism From National Park Advocates

Jul 18th - 21:15pm | beachdumb

ecbuck, I will give you a prediction.. Next year NASA will say that the planet got hotter, and their scientists will say it is because of climate change and greenhouse gasses. 

Jul 18th - 18:35pm | ecbuck

May very well happen argalite. Will they explain why all their prior predictions have been so horribly wrong?  But then, it may not get warmer, but they still will blame green house gases.  You do have one advantage however, your prediction is based on kool aid not a scientific model so you will have an excuse if you are wrong.  

Jul 18th - 18:24pm | argalite

ecbuck, I will give you a prediction.. Next year NASA will say that the planet got hotter, and their scientists will say it is because of climate change and greenhouse gasses.  I want to see you dispute that. I don't have a tail...

Jul 18th - 15:13pm | Rick B.

Enjoy that momentary  sensation. That is what bullies say to keep people engaged. Goiodbye.

Jul 18th - 13:53pm | ecbuck

Yes, I enjoy discussing the issues of the day. Looks like my predictions are far more accurate than those of the AGW models.  You are right, you should ignore me because everytime you engage you end up running away with your tail between your legs.    

Jul 18th - 13:28pm | Rick B.

Nah. I'm going back to the advice so many of us have repeated over the years, and then forgotten in the heat of the moment, to just ignore you, like the bully in junior high school beating up everyone in the hallways. You simply enjoy this conflict. Sorry I got involved again.

Jul 18th - 13:05pm | ecbuck

In no way is a prediction "science."  I don't know Al, these are supposed to be scientific models. Not predictions of a football game.  You put in the variable and it predicts the outcome. If the prediction is wrong then so must be the model.  

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