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Prehistoric Native American Site Discovered At Channel Islands National Park

Jun 6th - 23:42pm | Rick B.

Glad they are taking it slow and careful.

President's Decision To Leave Paris Accord Draws Criticism From National Park Advocates

Jun 6th - 22:26pm | Grizz

Oh, EC, what a gotcha question. Read the real science and then come back and cite peer reviewed scientific articles on the subject and then we can have an intelligent discussion.

Jun 6th - 22:04pm | Let Me Google T...

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=0&q=%22climate+change%22&hl=en&... In Science alone there have been just shy of 1000 papers:

Jun 6th - 22:03pm | ecbuck

Al Gore is not a climate scientist Correct, but he made his statements based on "scientists" predictions.  Those scientists were wrong.   How about the predictions of more and more severe hurricanes.  How has that worked out?  Answer, its been wrong. 

Jun 6th - 21:32pm | Grizz

EC, Al Gore is not a climate scientist. Scientists make predictions that change will likely be within certain high and low limits and then give probabilities. As new information is found, they revise their estimates. Gore tends to take the high estimates, and that is a mistake on his part.

Jun 6th - 18:09pm | Rick Smith

Yes, Dumb, thousands and thousands

Jun 6th - 17:29pm | ecbuck

Grizz- The predictions haven't been wrong?  Tell me, has the Artic ice cap melted out?  Gore made the claim it would happen by 2013 or 2014 based on AGW theories.  Its 2017 and we aren't even close. 

Jun 6th - 16:05pm | beachdumb

Grizz, can you please provide some "actual science"? Thousands and thousands of scientists? LOL  

Jun 6th - 15:18pm | Grizz

There is little point in arguing with EC and others who get their science from youtube and Fox News and similar places. EC repeats over and over again that the climate models that ascribe warming to green house gases are wrong. That is not true. I don't have to come up with a new theory for warming, EC.

Jun 6th - 14:28pm | beachdumb

Rick, I think your post is a glaring example of "Psychological projection". Your "true believer" of global warming is a "condition". Greens are inventing elaborate fantasies of shadowy right wing conspiracies to explain President Trump's withdrawal from the Paris Treaty - but still refuse to consider the possibility they are wrong about global warming.

Jun 6th - 14:20pm | Rick B.

Lee --- just walk away. There is no possible way you will get anything admitted by these True Believers. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-believer_syndrome]  

Jun 6th - 14:06pm | beachdumb

Gosh Lee, seems your "condition" is getting worse. The progressives are the one of conspiracy theories. Jun. 29, 1989 10:49 PM ET UNITED NATIONS (AP) A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Jun 6th - 13:42pm | Lee Dalton

Can't all you folks see that our friends who deny GW are proving beyond any doubt that the conspiracy theorists are right when they claim that their conspiracy theory about a climate conspiracy theory is under attack?  Remember that if you try hard enough, you can find something wrong with anything.  There are even some folks out there who deny that gravity really exists.

Jun 6th - 12:51pm | beachdumb

Kurt, Mr Heller gets his data from the same place. Its just that you fell for the same deception trick that he was desrcibing in the video. NSIDC is cleverly hiding the two million km2 ice gain which occurred prior to 1979. Had NSIDC begun their graph in 1971, it would be clear that Arctic sea ice is cyclical, not the fake linear trend they are scamming people with. 

Jun 6th - 12:29pm | ecbuck

Just because some predictions have not beared out does not mean the science is wrong By definition the science is wrong if its predictions are not bourne out.  It has nothing to do with my "understanding".  

Jun 6th - 12:21pm | Kurt Repanshek

Beach, a quick glance at the National Snow and Ice Data Center website makes one wonder where Mr. Heller got his data:

Jun 6th - 12:03pm | beachdumb

Here is another new video debunking the junk science claim that Arctic sea ice is experiencing a record decline.  https://youtu.be/D_Qjj8hYpyc Progressives have a "condition" about the Paris accord, because they understand nothing about science, climate, government, politics, or anything else. 

Jun 6th - 10:25am | argalite

Ecbuck, Just because some predictions have not beared out does not mean the science is wrong, it just means you don't understand, and will not ever be capable of understanding, due to your condition.

Jun 6th - 10:01am | ecbuck

I think I get it now Lee.  You have a complete inability to look at information, process it and come to your own conclusion.  Therefore you rely only on the source or on whether the argument being made is what you want to hear.  Tell us, what in the YouTube video was wrong?  Tell us, what in the Chris Wallace interview was wrong?

Jun 6th - 09:37am | Lee Dalton

So THERE all you who believe in Global Warming! We now have been provided with absolutely rock solid terrific PROOF that AGW is a hoax.  And it was provided by none other than some guy on YouTube. The only thing better than that might be still more proof from Chris Wallace on FOX delivered to us by The Blaze.

Jun 6th - 08:50am | beachdumb

Debunking the very fake news the AGW cult relies upon. https://youtu.be/5ATswpscuUg  

Jun 6th - 07:52am | ecbuck

Grizz -  the fact that temperatures change, oceans rise and fall, plants and animals migrate is undisputed.  The issue is, what causes those changes.  The alarmist claim it is primarily or largely due to CO2 emmissions.  They have made predictions based on that theory. The predictions have been horribly wrong.

Jun 5th - 23:38pm | Grizz

Global warming/climate change is not just based on models. It is also based on actual measurements of global temperature. The modelshave not been horribly wrong. They have been steadily getting better as more data is available and they can be updated. That is, in part, how science works. The idea of global warming is not just based on air temperature measurements across the globe.

Jun 5th - 21:39pm | ecbuck

Lee you better go back and pay more attention to the story.  The interview wasn't on a right-wing website channel  and Chris Wallace is hardly some right wing interviewer. 

Jun 5th - 19:58pm | ecbuck

Argalite - The AGW cult makes models based on the theory that our dumping greenhouse models is warming the planet.  The models have proved to be horribly wrong - as even Chris Wallace (that bastion of conservative thought) has come to realize.  I don't have to dispute it.  The facts dispute it.  

Jun 5th - 19:01pm | Lee Dalton

Sorry, Rick and Arg, it looks like you've been Trumped by ec.  After all he points out that no less a world renowned scientific authority on everything like Chris Wallace has proclaimed on a right-wing website channel that the rest of the world is wrong.

Jun 5th - 14:58pm | argalite

Hokum?  All we need to know is that we are dumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere at unprecidented levels, and that is warming the planet.  That is not Hokum ecbuck, not at all.  Anything you write to dispute this is not true.

Jun 5th - 14:56pm | Rick B.

Trump's gift here to the Koch brotheres has been nationally and internationally scorned, with the miniscule but disproportionately  loud exception of a lonely handful of gadfly misfits here on NPT.

Jun 5th - 08:08am | ecbuck

More hokum.

Jun 4th - 20:26pm | Kurt Repanshek

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/changing-climate-10-years-after-inco...

Jun 4th - 19:11pm | ecbuck

The theory has been horribly wrong but they so want to believe. http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/06/04/watch-chris-wallace-confronts-al...

Interior Secretary Zinke: Read These Books Before Choosing A National Park Service Director

Jun 6th - 15:57pm | Rick Smith

I agree with the Indian Trader.  I would add Yellowstone Ranger by Jerry Mernin to discover what a real ranger does.  Berkowitz's attitude toward anyone who doesn't share his rather narrow definition of NPS law enforcement is well-known.  There are number of books dealing with rewilding bears including Engineering Eden by Jordan Fish

Jun 6th - 13:42pm | Xemu

I'd recommend Dianetics for it's piercing account of the role of suppressive persons in damaging organizations.

Jun 6th - 13:42pm | beachdumb

Yes, there is much corruption in the NPS - that's the reason I left - but much of that is a result, I believe, of hiring practices and promotion practices no longer based on tough Civil Service Exams and experience, but on politics. I believe this too. Diversity politics has had huge contribution to the swamp. 

Jun 6th - 12:57pm | Truth and Caution

Yes, there is much corruption in the NPS - that's the reason I left - but much of that is a result, I believe, of hiring practices and promotion practices no longer based on tough Civil Service Exams and experience, but on politics.  That must change, and the Service must return to hiring and promotion on the basis of the requirements of the work, not diversity politics.  

Jun 6th - 12:06pm | Anonymous

Yes, let's spend our time reading the hit jobs by disgruntled retired employees who can finally grind their axes fine with the help of a good libel attorney and an editor. Rob's book is an excellent one-sided account of how politics as usual in DC can grind up the little folks. Paul's? Not so much. His read as an exericise in exorcizing his own ego-demons.  

Jun 5th - 20:56pm | [email protected]

To better understand  EVIL,  read: https://philsphil.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/introducing-three-degrees-of-...   Does Evil Equate to Ignorance? "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." ~ Socrates

Jun 5th - 19:53pm | ecbuck

m13 - took your advice and read the book.  No sure how it applies to NPS management.  Must say I had some issues with Pecks conclusions.   In general, I didn't think any of his examples were truely "evil".  Hitler was evil, Stalan was evil, ISIS is evil.  Being a narcissist or not wanting to let go of your childred is not "evil".

Jun 5th - 19:05pm | Lee Dalton

Let's hope people who are in position to make a difference will grab the opportunity to do that.  The thousands of honest, excellent, hardworking people who are really the NPS deserve nothing less. 

Jun 5th - 15:29pm | SmokiesBackpacker

"People of the Lie" is one of the most important books ever written.  Everyone needs to read it.  And my experiences with NPS brass fit right in there.

Jun 5th - 13:40pm | Harryb3570

Thank you for writing this wonderful article with its excellent suggestions. I can only hope Secretary Zinke follows your advice and reads all of these books. He should also have his staff read them as well. Many more books of this type can be found on the npshistory.com web site at http://npshistory.com/books/index.htm. 

Jun 5th - 13:36pm | Glad2bretired

In response to m13's post above, I read "People of the Lie - The Hope for Healing Human Evil", by M. Scott Peck, while working at my last National Park.  The insights contained in this book helped me understand how the Park's management team operated, thereby helping me survive a difficult period of my career.  The NPS has all too many managers who fit Mr.

Jun 5th - 09:31am | SmokiesBackpacker

I am glad you are making these suggestions. I will also add that there is clear evidence that performing hit jobs on people who run counter to the NPS line seems to be the shortest route to advancement in the agency.  But I have zero hope that Zinke will reflect upon the NPS misdeeds in light of his own travel expenditure malfeasance.

Jun 5th - 09:10am | [email protected]

Also Read:  https://www.amazon.com/People-Lie-Hope-Healing-Human/dp/0684848597

Jun 5th - 09:05am | tahoma

Thanks for this timely and appropriate article, Kurt.  The National Park Service has many fine employees, but the total agency is far less than the sum of its parts due to widespread mismanagement. I hope he reads your recommended books, but I doubt Secretary Zinke will be impressed with your travel fraud example, since he's been reported to be guilty of the same offense:

The National Mall: Contents Under Pressure

Jun 6th - 14:01pm | J lombo

The parks of this country have been neglected as this article points our for decades.  While Obama and the Democrats who were in charge of the House gave lip service to the ideals of the park service, they certainly werent willing to put OUR money where their MOUTH is. Rather, their focus has been adding more to the budget to support more and more entitlements.

Interior Secretary Told He's Wasting Taxpayers' Money On Monument Study

Jun 6th - 08:33am | Alyce

Please Please, leave  our amazing national monuments alone.  Let them stand as some of the country's greatest identities of nature and culture that they are.

Lifetime "Senior" and "Access" Park Passes Now Available By Mail

Jun 4th - 14:24pm | Kurt Repanshek

Sorry, Karen, the NPS does not replace passes. They'll have to purchase new ones.Veronica, next time you visit a NATIONAL park you can pick up a new pass for $10.

Jun 4th - 13:23pm | Karen Coarsegold

My inlaws are in their 90's and for some reason they have lost their senior passes and want to see if they can get replacements.

Study Assessing Climate Change Impacts On Birds Includes Yosemite National Park

Jun 4th - 10:44am | Beast Sssotlohiefmjn

 I have them nesting on my property in Hemet, the male fights a mirror I have outside. 

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